The Hera Research Newsletter (HRN) is pleased    to present an in-depth interview with Jim Sinclair, Chairman and CEO of Tanzanian Royalty    Exploration and founder of Jim Sinclair’s    MineSet, which hosts his gold commentary as a free service to the gold investment    community.
 Jim  Sinclair is primarily a    precious metals specialist and a commodities  and foreign currency trader.  He founded the Sinclair Group of  Companies    in 1977, which offered full brokerage services in stocks,  bonds, and other investment    vehicles.  The companies, which     operated branches in New York, Kansas City, Toronto, Chicago, London and  Geneva, were sold in    1983.
 From 1981 to 1984, Mr.    Sinclair  served as a Precious Metals Advisor to Hunt Oil and the Hunt family     for the liquidation of their silver position as a prerequisite for the  $1    billion loan arranged by the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, Paul  Volcker.
 He was also a General    Partner and Member of the  Executive Committee of two New York Stock Exchange    firms and  President of Sinclair Global Clearing Corporation (a commodity     clearing firm) and Global Arbitrage (a derivative dealer in metals and     currencies).
 In April 2002, shareholders    of Tanzanian  Royalty Exploration (formerly Tan Range Exploration) approved    the  acquisition of a Sinclair managed private company, Tanzania American     International, and its exploration assets in Tanzania. Subsequently, Mr.     Sinclair became Chairman of Tanzanian Royalty and now leads its  efforts to    become a gold royalty and development company.
 He  has authored three books    and numerous magazine articles dealing with a  variety of investment subjects,    including precious metals, trading  strategies and geopolitical events and    their relationship to world  economics and the markets.  He is a frequent and popular commentator on     financial and market related issues in various news publications and  has been    profiled in the New York Times.
 In January 2003 Mr.     Sinclair launched, Jim Sinclair’s MineSet, which now hosts his gold     commentary and is intended as a free service to the gold community.
 Hera Research Newsletter (HRN):  Thank you for speaking with us today.  You are one of very few people  who have tried  to warn investors about OTC derivatives.   Why are OTC derivatives a problem in your opinion?
 Jim Sinclair:  Over the counter (OTC) derivatives are the reason we are going through  what we  are going through now.  An OTC derivative  is a kind of wager  on what something will do.   Up until 2009, most of these wagers had  very little, if any, money  behind them and, if the direction you bet on  didn’t come to fruition, the  amount of leverage resulted in  extraordinary losses.  There was a major rollover in derivatives tied   to real estate in 2008, as well as in other types, such as those tied to   sub-prime auto loans.
 HRN: Did OTC  derivatives destabilize the financial system in 2008?
 Jim Sinclair: Absolutely.
 HRN: Don’t  financial institutions use risk cancellation models to hedge risks using OTC  derivatives?
 Jim Sinclair:  Before the failure of Lehman Brothers, OTC derivatives losses would  have almost  netted out to zero.  You can consider  derivatives like a  string in a circle with various knots representing all the  derivatives  transactions.  When Lehman  went broke, the string broke.  When  Lehman  couldn’t meet its obligations on derivatives, they could no longer be   netted out to zero.  That’s why the banks  went down, and that’s why you  had the government bailouts and quantitative  easing (QE).
 HRN: OTC  derivatives are the real reason for the bank bailouts?
 Jim Sinclair: That is a fact which can in no way be argued away.
 HRN: Hasn’t  the problem been cleaned up by the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer  Protection Act?
 Jim Sinclair:  The pile of OTC derivatives is over $1 quadrillion.  After 2008, the  International Monetary Fund  (IMF) adopted a new method of valuing them  called value to maturity.  Value to maturity assumes all of them will   function, which is a cartoon.  The  derivatives pile hasn’t contracted.    Basically, it has expanded, but value to maturity reduced the notional   value from over $1 quadrillion to under $700 trillion.  The amount  outstanding is the same as it was  in the first place.
 The flavor  of the present  moment is credit default swaps against the solvency, or  lack thereof, of  sovereign nations.  New derivatives have  some margin  behind them, but they only work if they are not called upon.  If a  nation’s debt was in fact to default, it  would happen very quickly  without a great deal of run up before.  Most people would expect a  rescue to be  coming.  Let’s say a rescue didn’t come,  those credit  default swaps would simply not be able to function and down again  would  come the banking system.
 HRN: Are you  saying that the financial system is less stable today than it was in 2008?
 Jim Sinclair:  It appears more stable but that’s only an appearance.  The entire  equity rally took place almost to  the day from when the Financial  Accounting Standards Board (FASB) relaxed the  mark to market rule.  It  allowed  financial institutions to make up whatever value they wanted  for their  worthless pieces of paper.  If they used  the real values,  the banks would have come down.
 HRN: Wasn’t  the FASB change a temporary measure to halt the decline in mortgage-backed  securities?
 Jim Sinclair:  It wasn’t just mortgage-backed securities.   It was all the paper on  bank balance sheets.  The balance sheets of banks appear to be in  good  shape but they’re not.  In fact,  they will need a lot more funds.
 HRN: Then the  financial system is still vulnerable?
 Jim Sinclair:  They’ve kicked the can down the road.   The purpose of QE, in other  words the printing of money, is to maintain  some degree of integrity in  the financial system.  Bear in mind that the grease for the wheels  of  equity markets is liquidity, meaning that if you create a lot of money,  it  goes into the hands of banking institutions and international  investment houses.  So, the equity out of thin air market has  been  sustained by QE.
 HRN: What  can the government do to prevent another crisis?
 Jim Sinclair:  You can assume that what’s been done already will be done again.  There  are no other tools in a practical sense.  The idea that there won’t be a  continuation  of QE is nonsense.
 HRN: Can the  government bail out the banks again?
 Jim Sinclair: The central banks will buy the government debt.   That’s called quantitative easing.
 HRN: Doesn’t  QE undermine the dollar?
 Jim Sinclair:  The dollar is an exercise in psychology.   It’s a piece of paper with a  promise to pay but there’s nothing in which  it can be paid.  It’s  legal settlement  for debt but there’s nothing that it’s convertible  into.  To maintain confidence, it’s necessary to  maintain the stature  of a currency.  In  an arithmetic sense, if you go into a market to sell  a supply of apples, and if  you’re the only seller, you can get a nice  price.  If more sellers, meaning more apples, come  into the market,  there goes the price of apples.  QE creates more dollars, which  increases the  supply.
 HRN: If the  dollar is loosing value because of QE, what about the Euro?
 Jim Sinclair: If you look at the dollar or the Euro  or the Yen, or even the Swiss franc, it’s  a race to the bottom amongst  all currencies.   All countries everywhere are creating more paper  every day.  It’s a relative valuation, rather than a  valuation based on  an objective reference.  What happens in the European Union immediately   affects the dollar.
 HRN: You  mean the sovereign debt crisis?
 Jim Sinclair:  There’s too much focus on the Euro countries.   There’s no difference  between the economic union of Europe and the union  of the states in the  United    States.   The states of Europe have been revealed  to be  insolvent.  How about the states of  the United States?  Out of New  York,  Illinois, California, etc., how many are solvent?  The focus of  the media has been on the  Euro.  The U.S. should stand in front of a   mirror.  The states of the economic union  of America  are in no better  shape.
 HRN: The news  media is ignoring the U.S.  sovereign debt crisis?
 Jim Sinclair:  In George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four, there were loud speakers  constantly teaching  the people what Big Brother wanted.  The   loudspeakers today are financial television.   How much attention has  financial TV put on the insolvency of U.S.  states?  It’s been  mentioned, but not  like the solvency problems of Portugal,  Greece,  Spain and Ireland, which have gotten hours,  days, weeks and months of  constant coverage.   The solvency of New York, Illinois and California   has been brought up but fleetingly at best.
 HRN: So, the  solvency problems of U.S.  states are like an elephant in the room that no one is talking about?
 Jim Sinclair:  How can you say that the Euro is a disaster based on the financial  condition of  the states of the economic union of Europe, when the  states of the economic  union of the United States  are in equally bad  shape and in some cases worse?  There’s no difference.  If you want to  analyze the Euro based on the  weakness of its member states, how can  the dollar be strong when the states of  the United States  are as weak  or weaker?
 HRN: So, the  Euro could rise against the U.S. dollar, despite the European sovereign debt crisis?
 Jim Sinclair: Sure it can.  The question is, can the  dollar go lower?  The Euro could go to  $1.50 or higher.
 HRN: But the  U.S. dollar is the world reserve currency.   Doesn’t that guarantee its value?
 Jim Sinclair:  Only by default.  It remains so because  central banks own dollars.  If  central  banks could exchange them for gold or other currencies without  a major  dislocation, they would.
 HRN: Then,  as a practical matter, central banks can’t get out of the dollar?
 Jim Sinclair:  The only one that’s gotten out of it is China.  They’ve made deals all  around the world for  metals, materials, energy and manufacturing.   If  you add it all up, China  is no more stuck in the dollar than the man in  the moon.
 HRN: Doesn’t  the U.S.  maintain a strong dollar policy?
 Jim Sinclair: The strong dollar policy has only been a moderate, long-term downtrend that  continues lower.
 HRN: Don’t  central banks manage currency exchange rates to prevent disruptive changes,  like the recent Japanese Yen intervention?
 Jim Sinclair:  In the Japanese yen intervention, the central banks intervened but how  long can  they intervene?  They have to create  money to intervene,  which comes back to QE.
 HRN: Do you  mean the overall affect of currency interventions is to create new money?
 Jim Sinclair:  Anything that happens around the world, for instance, the Bank of  Japan’s  response to the horrible disaster in Japan, was to go straight  to  QE.  Money is being created everywhere  without any discipline but  the problems of financial institutions remain  because they have  make-believe balance sheets with improper values for their  OTC  derivatives.
 HRN: Doesn’t  the suspension of the FASB mark to market rule buy time for banks to repair  their balance sheets?
 Jim Sinclair:  There are five million homes for sale in the United States if you  include the  off-market shadow inventory, which is a real inventory.   There’s no repair coming in the real estate  market, therefore, there’s  no repair coming in the OTC derivatives based on  that.  That means  there’s no repair  coming in the underlying paper that the banks now  value at much higher levels  than they could possibly sell them for, if  they could sell them at all.
 HRN: Will  bank balance sheets eventually get better?
 Jim Sinclair: As long as confidence remains in place, which depends on the equity market and  that comes back to QE.
 HRN: Are you  saying that the U.S.  stock market rally is driven by QE?
 Jim Sinclair:  There’s an inability to stop QE without the whole house of cards coming  down on  itself.  There’s no other choice.  It’s the only tool left.   The Federal Reserve can’t take a hawkish  position on monetary policy  and interest rates without this whole thing rolling  over.  They can  talk about it constantly  and might have more back door QE than front  door QE.
 HRN: If QE  doesn’t stop soon, what will happen?
 Jim Sinclair: The end game is a virtual reserve currency linked to gold.  It will be based on an average of major  currencies,  which will slow down the movement in the index.  The International  Monetary Fund (IMF) is  moving in that direction with Special Drawing  Rights (SDRs).  The dollar will be just another  currency.  The dollar’s  not going to  zero.  It could loose a significant part  of its buying  power, which it already has and could again.
 HRN: How would  a virtual currency work?
 Jim Sinclair:  There would have to be a broad measure of the money supply, such as M3  used to  be for the U.S. dollar, but on an international basis.  The  price of gold would be related to that  measure.  Central banks would  have to  value their gold according to their contribution to or  extraction of  international liquidity, so the price of gold would rise  or fall on its own.
 HRN: Wouldn’t  that be a gold standard?
 Jim Sinclair:  There’ll never be a return to a gold standard in my opinion.  The end  of all hyperinflations has been a  commodity currency.  That’s exactly  what  happened in Germany,  for example.  Gold has the capacity to  give  confidence to people if there’s some relationship between the currency  and  gold.  The virtual currency will be  linked to gold but not  convertible into gold.
 HRN: So, a gold  component will restore confidence?
 Jim Sinclair:  The answer is a commodity currency.   That’s what happened every time  there was this type of situation in  monetary history.  The rentenmark,  which  ended the German hyperinflation in 1923, was supposedly backed by  all the real  estate in Germany,  but the government didn’t own that  real estate.   The point is that it wasn’t true.   There was no great  commodity backing for the rentenmark, but it was  enough.  It was a  period when people were  searching for anything to restore confidence in  the currency.
 HRN: Do you  expect high inflation in U.S. dollar terms?
 Jim Sinclair:  The deed is done.  Inflation is a  pregnancy.  The conception has  already  taken place.  There’s a delayed effect  but if you do the  crime, you do the time.  The Federal Reserve could stop QE tomorrow and   it wouldn’t stop what’s going to happen because of what they’ve already  done.
 HRN: Won’t  inflation reduce the real value of debt and help to repair bank balance sheets?
 Jim Sinclair:  Inflation is the way debt will be taken care of.  The value of the  currency will be so reduced  as to reduce the debt load.  It will also   change the political scene.  Whoever has  power going into this will not  have power coming out of it.
 HRN: In  other words, inflation is politically destabilizing?
 Jim Sinclair:  People really haven’t seen the big picture.   Currency induced cost  push inflation is already here.  Look at what’s going on right now in  the Middle East.  We  are moving from order to lack of order. 
 HRN: Would  you say that inflation in food prices is indirectly driving oil prices higher?
 Jim Sinclair:  Oil goes right through from fertilizers to farm equipment to  transportation and  to food prices.  The price of food is  going to go  even higher than we are seeing this year.  The price of oil is headed  decidedly  higher.  Peak Oil was a concept of the  future.  Now it’s a  concept of now.  A car getting 25 miles per gallon will  probably be too  expensive for the average person to drive.
 HRN: How  will high oil prices affect the prices of other things?
 Jim Sinclair:  There will be dislocation in the means of delivery of products.  There  may be shortages of goods, not because  there are no available goods but  because the means of distribution breaks  down.  It’s not that there  won’t be corn  or wheat, but the fuel needed to deliver it will be too  expensive and people  who work in transportation will demand higher pay  so they can live.  That’s where hyperinflation comes in.
 HRN: And  money to maintain the distribution of goods will be printed out of thin air?
 Jim Sinclair:  Every nation that has ever done this has turned into a banana  republic.  People can live in banana republics but there  will be few  wealthy people.  There will  be a few super wealthy people and an  enormous amount of poverty.  You can see it across the border in  Nogales, Mexico,  where people continue to live in extreme poverty.
 HRN: America is becoming like Mexico?
 Jim Sinclair:  The standard of living is going much lower.   People have to realize  that the damage is already done.  It’s not a question of whether the  U.S. can be  pushed over the edge.  We are over the  edge.  We are  watching the consequences  play out now.
 HRN: What  can people do to protect their wealth from inflation?
 Jim Sinclair:  People have to try to maintain their buying power.  Each person can  become their own central bank  and, to the best of their abilities,  focus on the assets that benefit from the  disorder that’s taking place  and that will continue to take place.
 HRN: Do you  mean buying precious metals or commodities?
 Jim Sinclair:  I’ve spoken to people who, over the last ten years, have had this   perspective.  They have done very well.  Even doing it now could protect  your wealth.
 HRN: What  about gold?  Do you see gold as a  currency that can’t be debased?
 Jim Sinclair:  What is real money?  Gold is a currency  that has no liability attached  to it.   It’s a measure of value and a store of wealth that’s  universally  acceptable.
 HRN: So, gold  is an alternative to dollars or Euros?
 Jim Sinclair: Physical  gold is the answer.  An individual who  holds gold will have more time and ability to function.
 HRN: How  much higher do you think the price of gold could go?
 Jim Sinclair:  What’s the exchange rate of a currency with no liability attached to  it?  Gold is going much higher.  We could see shocking gold prices,  maybe Alf  Fields’ target of $10,000 per ounce or Martin Armstrong’s  target of $12,000 per  ounce.  I think that my price target of  $1,650  per ounce gold is going to be so low it will be considered silly.
 HRN: Thank  you for your time today.
Jim Sinclair: It was my pleasure.
(http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/ron-hera/interview-jim-sinclair-on-gold-and-the-world-financial-system)